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@jsroberts wrote: MarjaE: Yeah I'm tempted to go to the opposite extreme and start half my sentances with yeah. Wulfila started a good many with jah. How about hwæt? Or as Seamus Heaney translates it,...
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@MTBooks wrote: Since no one is telling you: it's the red squiggly underscore that most spell checking software uses to tell you it thinks something is misspelled. Read full topic
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@Medievalist wrote: I usually hear hwaet translated as listen, but that's in dispute these days. Read full topic
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@jsroberts wrote: I'm certainly not an expert on the issue (although I had already read the Independent article you linked to and a couple of others), but so seems to be much less of an exclamation...
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@FoolishOwl wrote: One thing that I'm surprised I rarely see mentioned in this sort of discussion, is that there are social pressures to cause languages to diverge as well as to converge. Often,...
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@Gyrofrog wrote: Humbabella: It's purpose is to put the listener in the right frame of mind to understand what is about to be said to them. "Please switch your brain to listen-to-spiel mode now." I...
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@ActionAbe wrote: You're way overthinking it. There's no logic there. Speech is like genes, there's a lot there not coding for anything directly. Not all of the sentence bears a direct meaning. After...
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@Willondon wrote: ActionAbe: Not all of the sentence bears a direct meaning. After all, what does "um" mean? Granted, not every utterance means something directly, but they don't come out of nowhere....
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@FoolishOwl wrote: In conversation, I find a sentence starting with, "So...", often signals that we're wrapping up the initial chitchat and moving to the important topic. It's a signal to start paying...
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@jsroberts wrote: Going back to my example from Beowulf, this is the meaning that Seamus Heaney was aiming for in his translation: Conventional renderings of hwæt, the first word of the poem, tend...
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@jerwin wrote: In terms of content, this is very much off topic, but I found myself paying attention to the filler words--especially "So", when listening to this interview. www.npr.org How 'Putin's...
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@bgrahame wrote: I work for a multinational that uses English as its corporate language, and often help to vet job applications and interview potential new hires. Many speak varieties of Globish, and...
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@shaddack wrote: bgrahame: I don't have an answer. Drop the notion that such thick and unintelligible regional/subcultural accents are something good and diverse and support-worthy, and address it...
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@MarjaE wrote: No. We need diversity. If only one dialect retains some words, that dialect sheds likght on older texts using those words. Without that, we end up in the situation where we don't know...
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@shaddack wrote: On one hand this is true. On the other hand, are we willing and able to pay the cost of maintaining unintelligible accents in the form of supporting unemployable people? Read full topic
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@MarjaE wrote: Our society isn't willing to pay the cost of respecting human life in the form of supporting unemployable people and not killing disabled people. Read full topic
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@Medievalist wrote: The spelling bee... ah, yes, the spelling bee. My spouse lost the state bee as a child because she was given the word "arsenic" which in the official's downstate accent was...
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@Donald_Petersen wrote: Medievalist: After exhausting her allotted repeats, she gamely spelled it as it sounded, having never heard that pronunciation before, and lost. I feel her pain. Same thing...
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@MarjaE wrote: You could probably at least ameliorate this problem by having officials with different accents, and allowing contestants, if they don't understand it the first time, to hear how each...
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@shaddack wrote: Donald_Petersen: My ego never recovered... As someone who lost the few crucial points at a chemistry olympiad because of a concentration gradient in a master flask we were getting the...
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@Donald_Petersen wrote: That's an excellent idea. I mean, I can't really fault the guy's credentials. He teaches Shakespeare and Dramatic Literature, was an associate director at San Diego's Old Globe...
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@MarjaE wrote: What works for, say, Icelandic immigrants in Denmark or Swiss-German immigrants in the Netherlands, by the way? Or Cantonese immigrants in Beijing? Read full topic
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@Drew_G wrote: As I recall, he was the first or one of the first to use it as a verb ("elbowing someone out of your way"). Read full topic
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@Ryuthrowsstuff wrote: Yes I believe some one already pointed that out. But like I said Shakespeare had even more influence on things the usage of words and pronunciation than he did in regards to...
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